Dual Survival SSN 3 Review: Joe Teti Fresh Blood or Carbon Copy? Dual Survival SSN 3 Review: Joe Teti Fresh Blood or Carbon Copy? Practical Prepper Preparedness Reviews Self Sufficiency SHARE 'Above Average' Joe , / 786 Last week was a very busy week for me. Coming back from the holidays, I only had 3 days to get caught up and this didn’t leave much room for fun. One thing that I was extremely excited to see was that the new season of Dual Survival had recorded. I have been a huge fan of this show since it first aired. I do stay up late and probably could have watched it at any time but I had one problem, I somehow managed to get my wife addicted to the show as well and she wouldn’t have been happy for me to watch it without her. Finally the weekend came and we were able to sit down and enjoy the introductory special as well as the first full episode. After watching them both I have a few reservations about the future of the show but I want to give it at least a few more episodes before I make a final decision. Below are my thoughts so far: I want to start off by saying that I have a ton of respect for Cody Lundin and for Dave Canterbury as well. The dynamic difference in survival philosophy and style between the two was always entertaining to watch. They seemed to work very well together and keep the show interesting. Even if Dave had a few indiscretions with his military background he was still a good entertainer and I will be interested to see if he will be doing any TV work in the future. I also wanted to point out that this review is based solely on entertainment value, these shows should be used only to entertain viewers and garner an interest in becoming self reliant and gaining new survival skills, they should never be what you base your survival knowledge on. If you want to learn survival skills, make sure that you take an actual hands on course from a trusted name in survival. Cody has not changed much and the special episode aptly titled “Unbraided” seems to have been shot to bolster his position as a real survivalist and remove any mistrust that Dave’s indiscretions may have left looming over Cody. The real focal point of the show fell on Joe Teti. After watching his intro he seemed as though he were going to be a carbon copy of Dave’s skill set and whether or not that will be true has still yet to be seen. Joe has an impressive amount of experience under his belt ( that is of course if the network did a better job of vetting him than they did with Dave) and I am excited to see how the utilize his skills in the upcoming season. One major difference that I noted between Dave and Joe is that Joe has thus far been a bit more stubborn and hot headed than Dave ever was; but that could be based completely on the way the episodes were edited. Dave also tended to be a bit more respectful of the animal when he made a kill while Joe seems to run on animal instinct, which can be noted specifically when he speared a wild boar in the rainforest and stood over the dead animal with an intense and vicious look on his face. The show also seemed to put a lot of focus on Joe and Cody butting heads, but I think this can be attributed them earning each others trust and I expect it will calm down considerably in the next few episodes. Otherwise, the show may need to have its name changed to Duel Survival. With over half the season already filmed, there is still a lot to see over the next few months. In my opinion Joe seems to have filled the void left by the removal of Dave Canterbury but the question we are now left with is: Will he take this new role and make it his own or will he just be a carbon copy stuck in Dave’s shadow? If you haven’t started watching Dual survival, you can catch it on the Discovery Channel on Tuesday’s Or you can catch the season 3 special and the first full episode by clicking here http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/dual-survival What is your take on Joe Teti and the new season of Dual Survival? ***Updated*** After I posted this review, I noticed that Dave had posted a video in which he opened up a little about what happened with dual survival. I recently posted a new article with that video on it. Unfortunately Dave has closed all comments to the video…. but feel free to take a look and let me know what you think of his apology. Click here to watch Dave’s apology and my final review of Dual Survival Season 3. Comments 84 Comments Richter says: at 0 To be honest, I rarely watch these new programs, As , Like you said, They should be watched for Entertainment Only. Even a show from years ago, called Wilderness Survival, Was, I>M>O>, A Joke, it had the man, (I Don’t recall his name) Showing some Very Good tips & Just as you begin to think ” This Guy knows his way around a tree”, Boom, He start making a series of Mistakes, One right after the Other. But Thats HOLLYWOOD for ya. No, When a good, Down to life Survival movie comes out, You can be sure some Socialist will be there to MUCK things UP! Censorship, Lame Insurance Excuses, Government interference, F.E.M.A., HOMELAND INSECURITY, you Name it, in the last 15 years have made Any show on Survival, a Joke. THEY Don’t Want any of us to survive, That would interfere with their plans. And we must Never rock-the-boat, Right?? However, You have a great story, Have a wonderful day. Log in to Reply jdub says: at 0 My first impression was one of uncertainty because of the tension noted between the two but, as you have mentioned, I’m sure it’s them getting to know each others ways. Besides, in the coming episodes, it will most likely be noted that things are smoothing out between the two guys. I don’t question Discovery Channel’s programming (they always have great entertainment value in my opinion) and I’m pretty sure if the two guys ‘didn’t work out’ they would have searched for a better companion for Cody. And there are examples in Dual Survival that are noteworthy for your safety in the desert or forest regardless of your previous survival training — the show could easily save someone’s life if they’re paying attention to the details. I love the show and hope all works out well with these two adventurers. Log in to Reply Suan says: at 0 Cody is the problem not anyone else he fight and bicker cause he thinks he knows it all. I will never watch this show the only reason I watch the show because of Dave. Log in to Reply Wes says: at 0 Well said. I steer clear of most readily-available information simply because it wouldn’t be readily-available unless the powers-that-be wanted it to be; and they have NO intention of helping us survive when they are the ones who are aeeking to start civil unrest so they can declare Martial Law and fill their camps! Log in to Reply Larry says: at 0 AMEN WES! Well put! Log in to Reply Ag says: at 0 I was very disappointed in the new man. He has a very closed mind..with him it is the military way or no way. It was a great distraction in the show. Get Dave back! Also I would like to see some credit given to the photographers that have to trek along with the stars and carrying the photo equipment as well. What a tough road. Log in to Reply Eric B says: at 0 Completly agree… Joe Teti is a joke Log in to Reply Jose says: at 0 Seems to me with the new guy the show is aiming for a younger crowd. What I liked about Dave and Cody was that they seemed natural, and you learned things you did not need to be an ex-marine to do (like Joe climbing a palm tree with a rope). The show seemed more spontaneous before, not it seems too preplanned and things don’t flow. Cody is cursing way too much. Joe is too intense, and is doing too much. Hopefully both Joe and the producers start relaxing and let things happen. Log in to Reply Suan says: at 0 I agree I have watch the premier and it is boring no chemistry with the new men and I think Cody repeats himself to much maybe he just want to hear himself talk. Log in to Reply larry says: at 0 Dave made this show, the new guy ruined this show, don’t even watch anymore, loved it before ! Log in to Reply Dennis says: at 0 I can’t get past the fact that it is just stupid not to protect your feet in a survival situation the best you can. Log in to Reply Derek says: at 0 Former us army special forces, former us army CAG operator(delta), and former CIA special activities division operator. Multiple tours of duty in iraq and afghanistan. Not to mention he has been through virtually every high speed school the military has to offer. Yea, hes such a “joke”! God you internet keyboard heroes crack me up. This man has lived the life, and put it all on the line. What have you accomplished? An associates degree from your local community college? Lol, get real moron. Have some respect for the men keeping you safe at night sheep. Log in to Reply Jdub says: at 0 From a Vietnam vet — Amen, brother. Log in to Reply HW says: at 0 Knowing know that people like Joe are supposed to be these super heroes that keep America safe and graduate from these military schools that have a high attrition rate due to their shear intensity. I suddenly don’t feel very safe anymore. Joe is a dickhead that would leave anyone for dead and if I was a hostage and America sends people like him to come get me I would be afraid he would either shoot me or leave me! Special Ops people are trained killers not survivalist. Hell SERE doesn’t even teach survival as much as E&E. You spend all your free time walking around as a POW or being chased by dogs. Joe, you need to go back to work for Blackwater. HW 1/75 RGR Batt 1991-1995 Log in to Reply Jill says: at 0 I totally agree with you Derek! My boyfriend is a veteran of Iraq. And for all these little boys and girls mocking Joe Teti, hes the one who risked his life to fight for your freedom. So you can sit home with your mommys under ur blankeys and watch Dual Survival! Log in to Reply Ashleigh M says: at 0 Ahhh ya.. Im with Derek on this.. Joe is a national hero whom Ive come to have the upmost respect for. Hes a leader, and not only that a wounderful roll moldel for my children and all other children as well. Ive watched Dual Survival since it started and this was the best season yet to me. Cody and Joe had their issues but they come from two totally different life styles. Coming from a line a military background myself and my entire family on both sides mom and dad were all in the military. Airforce, Army and Marines. Not to mention my baby sister is going into the army when she graduates next year. If she could look up to anyone, it would be him. He busted his ass to get to where he is at now and if crap was to hit the fan, I know we have such a nobal man standing behind us willing to put his life on the line for us. Him and hundreds of others. This is just my opinion of course others have there own, but I love Joe and have nothing but repsect for this man. Losing my father after him serving 22 years in the military, Joe reminds me of him alot. Especially with that bad ass attitude he has , hey my father, grandpas cousins brothers uncles, they all have the same attitude. Keep doing what you are doing Joe, you are an american hero, no other. You have respect and honor not only for your country but for yourself and the people around you.. Log in to Reply That one guy says: at 0 Wow Derek, you have accomplished to be one of those internet keyboard heroes. You might be even worse than the other ones. Complaining on the internet, about people complaining on the internet doesn’t make you better than the rest of them. Ohh and have some respect for the people with an associates degree from the local community college, they pay their taxes, they make sure there is an army, so you can be safe at night. You are the kind of person I personally hate. The one that thinks he is better than the rest. while you do the same damn thing. Smartass. Log in to Reply Derek says: at 0 Dennis disregard my comment, it was directed at eric b above you. Log in to Reply russ says: at 0 I am in the market for a “survival knife” I noticed Joe Carries a knife, given his background i can only assume its a good one, what is it and where could one find one? Log in to Reply Joe says: at 0 I believe the one he carries is a custom design made by tops knives. Picking out a survival knife is a tough decision and there are a lot of things to think about. Blade steel, features, overall length, handle fit etc. what are you looking for? Log in to Reply Larry says: at 0 Russ- Check out Esee knives. I believe them to be the absolute best. Not cheap and not the most expensive, but the best. Made totally in the USA. I have been looking at knives, and read review after review for over a year (going on 18mos) looking for one. I KNOW I am getting an Esee. Also has a mo questions asked lifetime replacement. They really believe in their product and so do I. Log in to Reply Tomas says: at 0 Cold steel and Ka-bar make great survival knives look for aus 8 steel steel 1085 steel sk-5 steel 1095 steel and vg-1 steel some of those are equal to eachother in how good they are but they are all amazing steel Log in to Reply Derek says: at 0 Joe carries a SURV TAC 7 made by tops knives. Log in to Reply Chris says: at 0 As far as knives go,you can’t beat a Leatherman style knife for a survival tool. Log in to Reply jdub says: at 0 Kabar; they have two good sizes. And the Kydex sheaths are just about bullet-proof. Log in to Reply Ernest says: at 0 Having been on extended trips into the wilderness I know that people can and will panic, disagree and question their own ability. So these so are useful. People see an example of how personalities and experience can clash. So try and choose members of your team that will work together rather than waist valuable time and energy arguing. One of the trips we took into a remote area of Ontario Canada could have been disastrous for the 4 of us on the trip.We camped on a medium sized island in a lake. We enjoyed the remoteness, the views of the rugged terrain while we fished ,camped and enjoyed each others company. This was our second trip to the same location so perhaps we were a little over confidant. My self and a fellow that had never made this trip before took the boat loaded with camping gear out to the island. I left him on the island to set up camp and returned to the landing and the pickup truck we drove in on. One of the less cautious members of the group insisted on motoring the boat through an area where we would always wade the boat through. He struck a rock and broke the main shaft on the boat motor. Not a shear pin that wee were prepared for. When we rowed to the island night came along with a storm we got lost in the huge lake. We were in for at least a ruff night. We all survived and were much more cautious on our next trips. So it can happen and will so don’t take your life for granted. Log in to Reply Kris says: at 0 Ernest, I camp on small islands in Ontario all the time. We decided one night a little tispy to take the canoes out on a lake. Immediately after launching things went pitch black and a strong wind started blowing. We ended up a few miles out and luckily were able to find each other fron the sound of one aluminum canoe (1 of 3). In our case we were lucky because one canoe was equipped with an electric troller which ended up towing us back… It was a little frightening, but hell ya, Go Ontario Camping Trips! Log in to Reply Roger says: at 0 I think they all have had their faults and their expertise. I don’t like people who lie any more than anyone and especially about their military experience. However I also think that you can learn something from everyone. I’ve watched this show and several others over the years and my take is learn something from it and discard the things that just don’t make sense to me. My wife and I both watch and both comment about the good ideas and also the crap. Make your own decisions about what makes sense to you for your situation and brush off the stupid things that they do ad Hollywood. I’ve learned things from movies like “The Bodyguard” about being aware of your situation. Hollywood is Hollywood, but learn what you can where you can. I have done the same thing with my career as an electrical contractor. I have learned from a lot of different people. Log in to Reply Frank says: at 0 I liked the chemistry between Cody and Dave. I think they played off of each other well. I simply didn’t care for Joe. He seems like a know-it-all bonehead. I have a special ops background with 20 years in the military (to include combat tours in Vietnam and Iraq,and 21 years as a police officer/SWAT. I have also lived in Bosnia, East Timor and Kosovo with the Int’l Police so I have a background and know a bit about these subjects. Joe’s comments about why he was drinking his urine was pathetic and laughable. If drinking urine gives him the mindset to get over the next hill then I’ll start saving some up for him. And the scene where he killed the pig and then made an attempt to look “vicious” was pitiful. He appears to be a grandstander. All I can say to him is this, Joe, I’m sure you’ve got the chops to be an asset in the show but lighten up and quit being a bonehead. Yeah you’ve got skills but so does Cody. You could certainly learn a bit from his demeanor. Log in to Reply JazzBruce says: at 0 Not only is Joe an obvious stubborn bonehead, but I think he is not nearly as “manly” as he wants us to believe. As examples: he runs “like a girl”; I think the main reason he wanted to camp on the ground rather than get up in the tree with Cody is because he was afraid that he would be unable to climb the tree; when he unsheathed his knife for the attack on the pig he (for some reason) felt compelled to stop and look at the hand with the knife as if “am I holding it correctly?”; and several other cases. I don’t trust him as far as I could throw him, and with his gut and “man boobs” that would not be very far. I really dislike him, especially compared with Dave. I recorded the first four shows, but could only endure watching the first three. Log in to Reply Survivalist says: at 0 Um…hey jazz…i think it’s cody who has the gut and man boobs. Joe is pretty fit and has some stout arms. Cody is only 5’4″,so his big gut and “moobs” looks gigantor! Log in to Reply KRK says: at 0 I truly enjoyed the program with Dave and Cody. Their interactions helped showcase the different survival styles. Neither one “out doing” the other, however showing that both have relavent application. Joe doesn’t have the showmanship that Dave had, nor does he respect the natralistic approach to survival. He shows off more than he contributes, and it appears he likes to make all of the decisions. Really, drinking pee to motivate yourself? With all of his military training, I doubt that was necessary. Joe needs a little TV mentoring, something to soften that abrasive edge he displays. Add some charm or charisma, a little humor – something to offset his hardcore, badass, “I am alwasys right” attitude. I will be sorely dissapointed if it continues down its current path. Log in to Reply JDS says: at 0 I liked Dave much better. This guy like to show boat too much. Like when he killed the pig and then gave that Rambo look. Dave harvested a lot of game during the show as well but never tried to look like a death machine. For my money I still like Les Stroud. Les doesn’t take stupid chances in the wild and shows various tools and stratigies that any common person can do (you don’t have to be an expereinced mountain climber or specials ops person). I also respect the fact that Les tells you when he has received tips from local experts, and the fact that he is out there alone, filming himself! He has a safety crew that can get to him but for 7-10 days he is truely out there alone with no one to talk to except the camera. All thumbs up for Survivorman. Log in to Reply Linda Sterling says: at 0 I have been a fan of this show but not now. There is too much conflict. One thing I liked so much about the show was that Cody and Dave, even though they disagreed, could find a way to work together. But with Joe, no good. I am so disappointed in Season 3. I will not watch any more. Too bad. It was such a good show. Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 I have trained with Cody on several occasions and I have never met anyone with more knowledge of survival. Hi general knowledge is great and his knowledge specific to survival in the Southwest is awe inspiring. Cody can not only tell you what to do, but why to do it and if you are interested he can tell you the chemistry and physics behind it. I trained once with Cody after filming for Season 3 began and I can tell you he seemed very excited about Joe joining the show and felt he would bring a lot in terms of experience and credibility. A few people have mentioned the tension that comes up between Cody and Joe but don’t forget THIS IS TELEVISION and that tension has always been basic to this show…whether Dave or Joe. My biggest frustration with Dual Survival is more about the format of these shows. I have no problem remembering what Cody said before the commercial break so I don’t need them to rerun the last 2 minutes prior to the commercial…it seems like filler and wastes my time. AND I will say that I miss Dave a bit and Joe may take some getting used to. But I’ll hang in…still one of the best shows out there. Log in to Reply Jack E Sherwood says: at 0 I have always loved Dual Survival. I liked the interaction between Cody and Dave. I do think Joe needs to unwind quite a bit and respect Cody more. I thought I saw Joe being a little more at ease during episode 2. I hope he TEAMS with Cody more because I think Joe can learn much from Cody. I did like the intense look from Joe after killing the boar. It showed he is fresh from the combat theater. Respecting an animal you’re killing is hog wash. The animal is meat on the platter, inflicting the least amount of pain to the animal is the best Respect you can show for your prey. Log in to Reply Kenny says: at 0 And lets remember Joe is not used to killing pigs and survivng in a vast wilderness where all you have to woryy about is animals and mother nature. He is used to killing people. And when he was in a survival situation those same people were trying to kill him. Log in to Reply Vinny says: at 0 I like Joe, why does everyone want another Dave…he’s gone move on, give Joe a chance and you might learn something you never seen before… Log in to Reply JazzBruce says: at 0 Yeah, I learned that I had never seen a guy that was supposedly in our country’s top one out of about 1,000,000 highly trained elite survival/fighter types that did NOT know that fire can’t be sustained one stick at a time. I learned that as a Cub Scout when I was about eight. Log in to Reply Jdub says: at 0 Remember, this is a TV show — they’re trying to teach you something, in case you didn’t know (that you can’t maintain a fire with one stick at a time). I’m sure there are people out there that picture a nice small survival fire with the four sticks in a ‘star’ shape, fire in the middle. All you need to do is push each stick into the fire as it burns down. Log in to Reply Sikes says: at 0 All of you that dont like Joe should pack your things and move to France. Y’all would fit in real good there. Log in to Reply Sikes says: at 0 Derek jdub and Vinny.. I totally agree!..Joes an american bada**..You Dave lovers are total idiots. Dave was a fake! Where in the heck did all these pansies come from!? Bunch of dudes with manginas messaging on here. Sickening Log in to Reply Suan says: at 0 Joe is a a hero in the military he has no knowledge of talking and telling people how to survive in the wild. Military is not the same as being lost. Log in to Reply jay says: at 0 This Joe Teti guy is a survival joke. I had doubts, but when he said he wanted to make the fire and burn it one stick at a time, that confirmed it. He actually confessed to it later when he and Cody were “cuddling”, he always had high-tech gadgets when on missions, and he only had to sleep outdoors a couple of times. No need to go any further, he may be a bad-a## soldier, but you can smell he’s in there for the money, I wouldn’t take a survival class from this hot-head, he knows nothing about it – and he’s so smart, he admits to it!! Ahahah, he’s such a joke… Won’t be watching this junk no more… There’s better stuff on youtube… Log in to Reply Kat says: at 0 I really enjoyed dual survival until now. This new guy Joe i fear is going to send it to its death. And what a shame as i love cody. Cody is so knowledgable and a great teacher. The constant macho man attitude is exhausting to watch and the way Joe disrespects cody with whatever he is disagreeing to is angering. Fine, you dont have to agree but do it in a respectful manner. It is a real shame that this guy is making it almost unbearable to watch Log in to Reply RA SISTAD says: at 0 As bad as DUAL SURVIVAL was/is with the new dude at least they have a disclaimer prior to each show. UNLIKE “SURVIVORMAN” one of the very worst survivor shows of all times. Still claims to carry and do all his own filming “BS”! I can name many instances where it was impossible. I think he eats and sleeps with his support crew. I could go on and on…but you all know what I mean. The only one I believed for the most part was/is Bear Gryls (spelling)! BTW…I dont watch any of them any longer. Log in to Reply ka-bar59 says: at 0 Ra Sistad: Are you kidding? Bear? It’s all entertainment….granted. If you had ever spent any real time in the woods yourself, you would know that it’s more like Les Stroud, Dual Survival, and then…. maybe Bear Grylls. I have been to several survival courses through out my life. I spent hundreds of hrs. each year hunting,fishing,hiking, camping,…ect. I have seen nothing (to date) on T.V. or a video, that would prepare me in a REAL LIFE emergency. Watch it for fun. Get your real information from a reliable source….And practice what you learn! Log in to Reply Dave says: at 0 Bear??? Are you kidding me??? Maybe you should go stay at the Hilton with him. He’s nothing but a joke. Log in to Reply Roy says: at 0 Dave was the man and will definitely be missed. Joe seems like the perfect fit and I can’t wait to see this show continue to teach and entertain. Cody and Joe have different approaches to the same goal as Cody and Dave did. This difference in thought is what makes this show great and I’m looking forward to Cody and Joe…the new Duo! Log in to Reply Rectidude says: at 0 Ok RASistad is obviously trolling on the survivor man bear grylls thing. Regarding the new DS, Dave took game but I never felt that it was a complete setup. Joe’s boar kill was obviously fake. Boars are dangerous and obviously they immobilized the animal with the leg hold to reduce the threat to the hired talent. Killing tied up animals is cowardly and unnecessary and beneath this program. Log in to Reply mary Smith says: at 0 Killing the boar was completely barbarric. This is a reality show, so needless to say i was not entertained. I have no problems with hunting. But for the discovery channel to pay for this is ridiculous, so in a sense that boar lost it’s life for cheap entertainment. Just how far will t hey go.what is a tiger next or maybe a humpback whale.or better yet a silver back gorilla. I guess if the money is right nothing is safe Log in to Reply Jdub says: at 0 You are most likely not an outdoors person. This program makes very good points which could save your life if you are put in the same situation. Don’t like it? Don’t watch. Log in to Reply RA SISTAD says: at 0 The show, like all the other reality shows, is scripted and choreographed. The boar was probably staked down. The producers and insurers of the shows are NOT going to allow anybody to get hurt. Like SOUTHBEACH TOWING, LIZZARD LICK, HARDCORED PAWN, DAWG..all of tghem staged. The only ones I believe not to be scripted are MYTHBUSTERS and INK MASTERS. (the only ones I watch) LOL…This is only my opinion. But think about it…in EVERY rreality show, there is at least one if not two complete crews. Camera men, lighting,sound and medics. Its all B******t! again, in my opinion! Log in to Reply Jdub says: at 0 You are exactly right about being scripted, even Cody has said that in his presentation at a local college. However, the point is that having these guys demonstrate techniques that a lot of people don’t think about could help in a survival situation. It’s not only entertainment (with tension and conflict, which makes for a better show), but also educational. It is what it is; take from it what you can and enjoy the program. Log in to Reply Sikes says: at 0 Well said jdub. I cant believe these people. GMiller says: at 0 I see most if my opinion(s) have already been expressed above. I enjoyed the interaction between Cody and Dave and their “teamwork”. It’s missing with Joe. Too young and feels he needs to prove something. And the bore killing thing — over the top. Folks, I realize a lot of this gratuitous violence stuff is to provide the shock and awe some sad individuals require for entertainment, but there are others of us who just enjoyed the different sceneries along with some of the basic survival tips for the location like how to make a fire or build a shelter this way versus that way and think outside of the box with the resources you got. The other hype is just unnecessary. Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 I am a huge DS fan and a huge Cody fan too (read above). But I turned off the Hawaii episode after about 15 minutes. I suppose you could get lost in Hawaii but I am not really buying that as much of a survival location. But I really didn’t like the fact that the whole episode appeared to be built around the staged boar kill (which we’d already seen in the first episode intro). For me the shark-jump came when they actually found a boar spear in the forest. OK…in the British Columbia episode Cody “found” the bottom of a beer bottle and made an arrow point out if it but finding a ready made boar spear made this one just completely implausible. And of course every animal kill we have seen on this show was staged, whether a porcupine, pig, turkey, salmon, alligator, etc. Dave, Cody, Joe travel with a production crew…do we really think wild boar will hang around an area where 15 guys are tromping around with production equipment? And why do we need to see another pig killed at all? This is only the 3rd season and we already saw Dave run down a pig and kill it in Laos in (Season 1, Episode 5). I have read many, many survival stories and one common theme is malnutrition bordering on starvation. In this show there is a major kill halfway thru most of the episodes. I would like to see more emphasis on survival skills and less survival-tainment. And at this point…probably less Joe. Re: Survivorman. I think Les slept in the woods. I think most of what he did was believable. I never saw him kill an alligator or a giraffe. Some folks say there’s no way he could have been out there alone given insurance requirements, etc, I would just say he was really the guy that started survival TV and, it’s Canada, far less litigious than America and perhaps less concerned about paperwork. And face it…in some episodes Les is obviously scared sh*tless of what might be in the dark. His show wasn’t perfect but, I think, less contrived that many on the air nowadays. Log in to Reply RA SISTAD says: at 0 SORRY BKR…there is NO way Les carried 55 lbs of camera equipment and did all his own filming. I have seen to many flaws. To numerous to explain. One example…Les sets up his camera, walks until he is out of sight(BTW the film and framing are perfect LOL) then Less must walk all the way back to pick up his equipment and then follow his footprints back and all this on a half a cup of water anf no food for 3 days!!!!! And when he says he is in lion country, rest assured there are NO lions within 25 to 50 miles and there are hunters posted in the area… Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 OK RA SISTAD…we’ll just have to disagree. I don’t discount all of what you say…you make a couple of good points as far as you go. What I know about Les is that he is well respected for his knowledge and has traceable/verifiable survival background…having studied with folks Like Mors Kochanski and the McPhersons. He really put in the time to learn what he is doing. I agree there were no lions near Les in Africa…I also know that Les will admit, as will Cody that he is expert at survival tequniques in a specific climat zone. Les is an expert in the northern boreal forest (not Africa), Cody is expert at surviving in the US Southwest. Neither are Africa experts…they both say so..but Les’s show would have gotten old quick if he shot every episode in Ontario. I am sure aspects of Les’s show are “produced” maybe he wasn’t alone…I don’t know and neither do you despite your assumptions. I appreciate Les for the fact that he makes an attempt to show the physical but more importantly the psychological impact of survival…and even makes stupid mistakes (that he doesn’t edit out just to boost his own image). All in all a credible guy who knows his stuff, much like Cody. Bear Gryls? If that’s your yardstick for measuring a survival show…I gotta wonder. Now there’s a guy who definitely sleeps at the Hilton every night. Log in to Reply RA SISTAD says: at 0 Thanks for all your responses BKR. My last post is…why do all the other “survival” shows start with a disclaimer except Les? Thanks again. Take care Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 Likewise Ra Sistad. Good to hear your views. BKR Log in to Reply Dave says: at 0 And you know all of this because you are there? Log in to Reply JohnY says: at 0 Damn, Discovery Channel, you really screwed up this time. You had a great great show and managed to blow it big time. Say you’re sorry to Dave and beg him to come back. I’ll even promise to buy the entire NEW season Dave is in. In the original show, Cody was the hippie walking around like a fool barefooted that Dave would risk his life for. And Dave was “being Dave” that Cody would risk his life for. Now, stupid execs think chemistry is something they can bottle by have one guy (Joe) argue at the other (Cody). “GET DAVE BACK NOW” there, I’ve started the movement… now do it! Of course, there’s always the alternative… say good night Gracie -John Log in to Reply Jdub says: at 0 I like Joe; you have to walk in his shoes (hear that Cody?!)to appreciate what he’s accomplished, saving those of us that can sleep at night from terror. It took this Vietnam vet years to ‘come down’ from an intensity you can’t understand unless you’ve been there. Joe will mellow more as the show continues. Watch the program for the entertainment value it’s supposed to convey and quit being so harsh on the players… it’s TV, remember. Log in to Reply Dude says: at 0 Joe worked as a contractor in the middle east. I.e., Blackwater. “Save us from terror?” Please, those mercs caused more terror than anything else and certainly have not been “keeping us safe.” I do watch DS for the entertainment, or at least I used to. Now I have to watch a fake soldier have a boargasim with his prop pig sticker. Log in to Reply JazzBruce says: at 0 Of all the negative comments about the new pairing, John’s is the most accurate. “Do something quick or PAY the consequences”. It might already be too late !!! Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 It’s great (and pretty rare) to see a debate like this continue to evolve without becoming nasty, self-righteous, overly critical, personal. Nice job all! BKR Log in to Reply kimberley says: at 0 I love Cody Lundin, I loved Dave…Joe is ok, I think he could grow on me, but one thing I do NOT like is the dynamic between him and Cody. Joe comes off as a know it all, arrogant a%!@*%, in my opinion. I watched one show, one episode and he must have told Cody to be quiet or hush 4 times. And who the hell does he think he is? I don’t think they work as a team. Joe seems to try and demean or one up Cody. I felt Dave was much more cooperative and he and Cody worked better as a team, with just enough differences to keep it interesting. Joe and Cody are too different and sooner or later folks will be choosing sides, Team Cody or Team Joe and forgetting is DUAL survival…. Log in to Reply ka-bar59 says: at 0 Fact is… none of these shows will help the average casual camper,hiker ,or hunter. Are you going to waist time making a lean-to, a fish trap (or net), craft a spear and hunt wild boar? What if your injured? Most of these shows don’t address that issue.(try zipping your coat up with one hand) You need to be found…or at least find your way home. Shelter making and hunting is for fun, NOT survival. Can you start a fire in the rain? Are you warm and dry? Most people that find them self in a “survival” situation, were caught totally by surprise. Wrong clothes, no knife,(notice everyone of these shows they at least had a knife.) No way to stay warm for the night. Are you going to go around barefoot and hunt wild game? No! You’ll make a fire, cover yourself in visible plastic, gather water, and wait for help. Someone will be looking for you. This isn’t the early 1800’s. Most people are found with in the first 24 to 48 hours. Would you waist time fishing or trying to hunt? Stay alive. That’s what survival means. If you want to take a Tom Brown book out on vacation and practice your “survival” skills…that’s another story. You can always go home when your done. lol On the subject of knives. What ever you have with you will have to work. I own and tested over a 100 brands in my life. I’ve found the best to be a plier tool (like the Leatherman Wave) and the simple, (and inexpensive) Mora. Any research will show that the Mora’s are the REAL survival trainers choice. Spend all you want. It might look kool, but can you use it? Is it really worth $150?…And where are people getting off throwing knives or batoning them? You don’t need a knife to chop wood. That’s what a simple saw is for. The right tool for the right job. I guess we could learn how to make tools if we watch enough of these shows and had enough time to kill. lol Have fun in the woods…and stay safe. Log in to Reply BKR says: at 0 Agreed ka-bar59. I took the course Cody offers based on his book 98.6. It’s exactly as you say. Statistics dictate if you get into a survival situation you will be found inside of 72 hours, dead or alive. Cody’s course is set up to help ensure you are found alive. 98.6 is a great book and so is Cody’s course called “Stayin’ Alive.” And once you take a course from Cody you quickly realize the difference between “TV Cody” and “Authentic Cody.” You are absolutely correct regarding survival tools. I go almost nowhere without a Mora and that includes the New York City subway on a daily basis. Log in to Reply Carol says: at 0 I really would like to know exactly which Island in the Hawaiian chain that the filming took place where Joe killed the wild boar. It looked very much like the area I lived in 4 years ago on the Big Island, called WaiPio Valley, on the north east side of this island. I had heard of several stories told by locals of how treacherous and dangerous it is to travel or hike around all those valleys in that area because of the vicious wild boar, especially if she has her babies with her. Joe was right on being insistent on repairing the found hunting spear, for personal protection, if that was all he could manage to acquire. the locals use highly trained hunting dogs for the purpose of holding down the boar until the hunter makes his kill customarily with a knife. And, even then these boar are known to rip up and kill the dogs, then turn on to kill the hunter, too! Well, it is sad that this happens in such a beautiful Paradise. But, you need to plan ahead for your safety and NEVER go out with out a good working flashlight, plenty of drinking water, a big rain poncho or largest trash bag liner available to stay dry, a compass, and extra survival food for 3 days at least, in case something bad goes wrong on your hike for the day—that ends up with you bedding down for the night. Of course we could add more to your list of survival supplies, this was just the most important essentials that everyone usually has on them at all times there in that beautiful tropical Rain Forrest. When the sun goes down it gets very, very dark under the tree canopy of huge tropical trees, with wild boars running around, it can be risky. By the way, keep a loud shrill whistle on you too, the cell phones won’t work there, either. So, how do I find out where the location was shot for this episode 3, in Hawaii? Thanks for your help, Aloha Log in to Reply kate krall says: at 0 First & foremost, I am an avid fan of the show & watch all the episodes & even the reruns. So, please keep the show on the air!! I love this show!! And, it is just that, a show & is intended for entertainment. I glean the info I need to learn from & the rest is entertainment. I respect & admire Cody for his broad knowledge base, expertise, skills & many years of experience. I feel that Joe needs to lighten up a bit & work more congenially with Cody. Yeah Joe’s got skills but so does Cody. Joe could certainly learn a bit from his demeanor. Maybe the producers want this much friction, who knows! But hey it’s Hollywood! Take what you need & leave the rest! Log in to Reply Jason says: at 0 They have gotten a lot better and are almost friends I feel. They butt heads occasionally but you can’t be nice and happy all the time with someone your around a lot. And joe was possibly a team leader so he probably is use to snapping his fingers an having a team listen to his orders, 20+ years in the military makes some people like that,not all , but some.its far into the season but he seems to be starting to detach a little more from his military lifestyle Log in to Reply Suan says: at 0 Hello does anyone can get the fact straight the show is about how to survive and team work is proven to be true. If one man always has to give orders than that man needs his own show let see if he can do in the wild on his own cause it clearly show Joe can’t take orders he has to give it that to me is errogant!!!!!!! Log in to Reply pmr says: at 0 Dave and Cody had a rough start and butted head for quite come time before they got comfortable working together. I am not a fan of Joe but think that time will work its magic and they will figure out their role in the relationship. Log in to Reply Lasivian says: at 0 Joe Teti is not a “survivalist” or an “outdoorsman” he’s a killer. He was trained by the US government to be a killer. To expect anything else out of him is silly. The US Military and it’s testosterone-laden attitude is to beat down everything including nature, not live with nature (Or anyone else they can intimidate or kill for that matter) I watch the show for Cody and his knowledge and attitude, always have. I considered Dave and now Joe to just be the hot-headed “manly” example of what not to do and how not to think in a survival situation. I mean seriously, Les Stroud and Cody would be my first picks for survival partners. Their actions are measured, cautious and clear-headed. Perhaps we’ll even eventually get a survival show with a woman on it one of these days and get the other half of the story. The genre has been entirely male-dominated. (Are you listening Discover Channel?) Log in to Reply John says: at 0 You’re probably leaving out the best of all, Ray Mears. Either way, I think guys like Dave don’t think of a survival situation as “oh no we’re gonna die here”. But rather, lets take the lemons of life and make leamonade. Just because your stranded, doesn’t mean you need to panic or cut your body carburetor down to nothing. They can turn the wilderness into a home and make the wild their pantry. You just need to reach a little further in to get the fixings to make your sandwich. Guys like Cody do the same thing but do it by expending the least amount of calories possible, by gathering small things to eat. In the long run, eating those small things will depleat your body physically. So if you don’t get out soon, you’d better be ready to go Dave’s route before you’re too weak to kill your own meat and get some sustainable strength. As far as a woman in the wild, the show is called Man Woman vs Wild and if some of those situations played out for real, she would have been dead many times. She hangs tough though and I give her credit for that. He’s a lucky guy to have a wife like her. -John Log in to Reply Cheryl says: at 0 I have really liked the show from the beginning, having watched almost every show from the first 2 seasons. I like Cody and Dave. I come from a long military background, so I’m not stupid about Joe’s credentials, or dissing them for that matter. But, he seems to be either overacting for the camera, or he has some serious issues going on there. His survival techniques and advice border on the downright dangerous in the few episodes that I was able to watch all the way through on this third season. Dave may not have the “real” background the producers were looking for, but his survival advice and expertise was solid and sound most of the time. Log in to Reply scott w says: at 0 I did not read ALL the previous comments and the video clip of Dave upon hitting play says ‘does not exist’. Well, to the point: I like and respect all 3 (Cody, Dave & Joe). DAVE: No matter what his resume said or did not, on Dual Survival, Dave was: competent, respectful, respectable and entertaining. So what if he blurred some facts of his past?! It’s f#@king Hollywood! the whole industry is BASED on fiction, creatively adapting and suspended belief. Sorry to see you go Dave. Be well. CODY: Others jab at his not wearing shoes: The guy knows his profession, has proven he is one tough mother f#@ker, yet still can carry a light demeanor and humor and stands by his values and style of living. I’d love to sit around a campfire with him and have a non-scripted or edited conversation. JOE: He does NOT come across as a replacement for Dave: He has his own presence: knowledgeable, determined, strong sense of comradary, likable and brings a new, different energy to the show. He’ll be successful. And I view most TV people as ‘I have no opinion of them; they are ACTING. I have no idea what they are really like. These 3 are an exception. I wish all 3 the best. Log in to Reply Martin says: at 0 Dave was the only reason I watched the program in the first place, its not worth bothering with now. I’ll just stick to watching Dave Canterbury on youtube. I can only hope that Dave canterbury gets a proper survival type programe of his own, he certainly has the skill base and the charisma to carry it off. Log in to Reply nate says: at 0 Dave is a waste of space as a human being. Not to mention a insult to anyone in the armed forces. Log in to Reply Bill Carmichael says: at 0 Cody is an iregent ass that wants everything his way Log in to Reply Dave says: at 0 When Dave left the show I quit watching. Cody and Dave made a great team for a great show. Joe sucks!!! Log in to Reply Susie Cross says: at 0 Joe has a bad attitude. He’s unnecessarily bossy especially because Matt is great. I’d gladly be stuck in the wild with Matt. Joe ? Oh hell no. Log in to Reply Leave A Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.